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Old 08-21-2020, 08:58 PM   #1
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Default pathy rear view mirror?

year: 1996
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my fucking rearview mirror falls of like 1x/year and im getting tired of it. I just had the annual "abandoning of ship" event and too old to keep fuckin around.



does the pathy mirror bolt in and does it actually use bolts? also is it a direct fit to the hardbody?
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Old 08-21-2020, 09:47 PM   #2
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year: 1996
drive: 4wd
Motor: small block
trans: bolt action


my fucking rearview mirror falls of like 1x/year and im getting tired of it. I just had the annual "abandoning of ship" event and too old to keep fuckin around.



does the pathy mirror bolt in and does it actually use bolts? also is it a direct fit to the hardbody?
The hardbody in 96-97 had the windshield attached rearview. Previous to that it was attached to the roof with screws. I have an older rearview roof mounted if your interested for sale.
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:56 PM   #3
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ya i am if you also have the little trim piece for the overhead light that has the hump.
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If you are going to attach a rear view to glass...clean windshield and mating surface on mirror thoroughly with denatured alcohol before using the glue. Or 90-99% rubbing alcohol. The medical 70% doesn't work as well.
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If you are going to attach a rear view to glass...clean windshield and mating surface on mirror thoroughly with denatured alcohol before using the glue. Or 90-99% rubbing alcohol. The medical 70% doesn't work as well.
i have followed this method with the 90%, it has always worked, especially when combined with 'permatex super strength mirror adhesive'.

but this summer, i have snapped it off twice.??? both times with a light bump. so i went searching for an old style mirror.

i went to LKQ last week and found/pulled a mirror like the one david29 described. i found one on a 87 hardbody, but it did not have the day/night switch.

the one i pulled was from a 2002 pathfinder...a perfect mounting match and a day/night switch!
same bracket and 3 screws. i also pulled the overhead console, but will return that because i dont want my headliner cut out, except for the mirror hole.
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:13 PM   #6
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i think what it really is, is just the extreme heat. i decide to fuck it and just glue it back on. this time i took a lighter to the glass and mirror button to smoke off the last of the debris
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Speaking of extreme heat, if you own a D21 you shouldn't leave it out in the sun when it is TOO hot without cracking one of the windows. It can get so hot in the cab that one or more of your indicator needles, (speedo or temp) can actually bend over permanently. I have had this happen a couple of times, but not on my current truck. Another thing is that if they don't bend over, they sometimes bend 'toward the front of the truck' and cause the needle to stick against the back of the panel. It's a PIA fixing this. Some indicator needles in vehicles are either thin painted metal, or a sort of wire covered in plastic. D21 needles are solid plastic, and that's why this happens.

I have had this happen a couple of times, but not on my current truck. I crack the window...
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It's been years, since I saw this done- but IIRC, my Dad (who was a career mechanic from the late 1950s to 1998), had a trick to make these "superglue" kits keep the mirror bonded on the windshield.


He'd scrape off all the old glue with a razor, clean the windshield with alcohol- then, after putting the superglue on the mirror bracket- he would- no joke- press his thumb to the windshield where the mirror was to mount- to deliberately leave a fingerprint there. Apparently, a tiny amount of skin oil, acted as a "bonding promoter", combined with the cyanoacrylate adhesive. You know how vehemently superglue bonds skin together? Same mechanism, in essence.



People were always incredulous- but once he put a mirror on that way- IT DID NOT FALL OFF AGAIN.



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Old 05-14-2021, 07:53 PM   #9
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well, looks like its time for my annual "it fell the fuck off" post.....if anyone has a bolt on mirror lemme know. this shit is getting real old.
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The problem with using super-glue based mirror adhesives is that during the summer or winter, the glue is more sensitive to vibration and knocks from the road, and gets brittle as well.

Some techs are now recommending you use Permatex Grey instead, in a two-step process that will ABSORB the shocks and bumps and actually hold the mirror permanently. It's an RTV based product. It also recommends NOT using alcohol, but a little dishsoap in water, followed by a good clean water rinse and dry. Claims the alcohol leaves a residue in the microscopic pores of the glass.

This whole setup sounds like a 'shock absorbing' type of mirror mounting and could actually work.

Details HERE. Does it really work? I don't know...
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