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Old 11-15-2021, 08:26 PM   #11
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500lbs? What are you thinking? Start with 100 and if you feel you need it, add 50lbs at a time. The rear end of these trucks are very light and need help with traction.

OK. Got a good shovel? I carry an old military folding shovel in my Subie... If it's snowing, the 2wd truck is parked.


edit: Also, remember this is dead weight. It may move around a little, but all-in-all they should remain where you place them. I put them on the outside of the bed, behind the rear wheel wells. Left the bed open for use.


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Old 11-15-2021, 08:34 PM   #12
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when we go out i carry a half length shovel but i do want a little folding one that can just live in the truck.





I have a bedliner, rhino liner, and its got this real...."velvety" texture to it. actually made me think it didnt cure correctly, but its tacky enough that things dont slide but will fall over. its odd. my college room mate had "Arma-coat" and it was slippery. stuff would fly around the bed if it wasnt tied down.
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Old 11-15-2021, 09:05 PM   #13
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Usually I run 4-5 of the 70lb tub sand bags if I'll be in the snow on the regular. It's also and excellent traction aid.



Don't worry about the bags moving around. Give it a snow and a freeze and they will be frozen to the bed until may. Half the time when I removed mine they were still cubes of ice.
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Oh, you can also use bags of concrete. Let them get wet... lol ...cept' no sand for traction, if needed.


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If you live any place like where I do. Just don't shovel the snow out of the back of your truck. but IMO adding weight for traction on ice and snow is nonsense. All it does is risk breaking traction easier in turns and trying to stop because you are trying to control the inertia of a heavy mass.
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I'll just leave this here...

https://www.lesschwab.com/article/do...n-in-snow.html
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Another key item, in that article: "Having the Right Tires Matters More"







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Weight, type of tire, width of tire, etc all factor in.
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Where do you live? It says CA in your profile. I sorta get the idea that you are making a big deal outa nutN.

Weight in the back helps....but I've never needed the help. I've seen snow in CO, once or twice. Though....a little help goes a long ways.

Tires help....snow tires that is.

I put about 200# of wood pellets in the back and then take em out as needed. I just hav e to remember to stock up, before it snows.
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Where do you live? It says CA in your profile. I sorta get the idea that you are making a big deal outa nutN.
I believe the OP is in the PNW state area and has plans to travel into the mountains... so, snow is expected.


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