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Old 01-02-2019, 02:47 PM   #1
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Im sure it has been asked 1000 times but I wanna lower my 97 hardbody a bit, I was thinking for now just blocks and a torsion bar crank.
Question is, I wanna go with a 4 inch block what degree of angle would I need as I have read you need angled blocks when using 4 inch blocks.
Second is do I need to shim the driveline at the carrier bearing?
And for the front typically how low can you go with just a torsion bar crank before they can't get rid of the camber when having a alignment done
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Old 01-03-2019, 01:34 PM   #2
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Hi Mazdaspeed,
I have my truck lowered ~4.5inches in the rear and ~5 inches in the front. I went a different direction than you but my driveline measurements should get you close. In th e rear, I used a 3degree shim, I did not need to shim the carrier bearing. In the front I bought 20mm longer upper A-arm mount bolts so the alignment shop could get enough spacers in there to correct the camber.
On my truck I used the Belltech front spindles and rear springs, redrilled my rear spring hangers up higher and re-keyed my torsions. I have put probably over 20k mikes on this truck and had no tire wear issues, and no carrier bearing issues.
Going this ride height on a daily driver you should also swap the front shocks(at minimum) for something shorter. I did the Pinto front shocks and there are no bump stops either front or rear.
Let me know if you have any other questions, and post up some pics when it is done!
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Thank you for the response, my thought is to get longer bolts to be able to correct the alignment, and just just do a 4 inch block with a 4 degree taper and a torsion bar crank for now.( unless funds allow for me to get drop spindles )
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Yes, that will get you the low you are looking for, but do know you WILL have to trim or remove your bumpstops to keep from riding on only the rubber. You probably will have to also change out your front shocks to keep from riding those bottomed out as well. The Pinto shocks can be swapped in for under $40 for the set(even KYBs from rock auto...)..... so it would be well worth it to consider those as part of the deal at the time you put aside to get this done. http://www.infamousnissan.com/forum/...ad.php?t=18744
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I already expected to have to remove/trim the bumpstop and I figured I would replace the front shocks and later down the road do air shocks in the rear.
I may try the 4x4 shocks first as it sounds like it offers a bit stiffer ride if those sick ass ill try yhe pinto shocks up front
You think an alignment shop will pitch a fit over swapping out the bolts for the front upper control arms?
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Probably not to easy to tell but I swear my truck is taller then most hardbody trucks i see, if i recall the front fender lip to ground clearance is 28.5 and I think the rear was 30, I could be wrong as that seems to be factory, at least most of my old square body s10's were around those measurements before i slammed them
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As far as the alignment shop goes for swapping the bolts, I would think that I would prefer to swap the bolts before I took it to the shop. This way you know that they wont pitch a fit(or charge you way to much to swap the bolts). This also makes sure that you have the correct size and pitch on your new bolts. You will probably have to pull at least one bolt to take with you to get your measurements for the new ones anyway.... only three left to swap them all out from there....

As far as your trucks height, I believe that the ~28 and ~30 are the factory heights for our trucks...... looks pretty stock from the pics.
By the way, your truck looks like a well kept machine, so congrats there. It will look so much better once you loose that gap in the wheel wells.
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That was the plan just pull one of the bolts, get some 20mm longer or so, crank down the torsion bars, maybe do spindles as well right now, and just 4 inch tapered blocks for the back for now. Oh and at least some front shocks too..

As for the truck, its in fair shape I suppose it does some damage on the passenger side of the bed, which always is hard to get a good pic of, and the passenger side fender is dented, i already found a matching color bed at a local yard I wanna get but no luck on a fender yet, may just get one and sand it down and paint it black.

Also I dont mean to seem nervous to lower the truck, I have never really dealt with torsion bars before, so I am just wanting to get everything squared away before I go at it, plus a buddy had a slammed nissan 720 " back in the day " ha and it rode like ass up front ( likely it was sitting on bump stops ha ) which i wanna avoid at all costs So worst case scenario I dont lower it til i get spindles
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I have yet to lower the truck as i am trying to figure out why I have slop in my steering, once that is resolved then i shall lower the truck
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Ur truck all round will ride shit. Its just the case of lowering.
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